Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!cbnews!cbnews!military From: hmueller@wfsc4.tamu.edu (Hal Mueller) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Unmanned ASW Helo (Was Re: Helicopter resupply mission) Message-ID: <1990Nov29.002729.19104@cbnews.att.com> Date: 29 Nov 90 00:27:29 GMT References: <1990Nov25.223324.14409@cbnews.att.com> <1990Nov27.043636.1845@cbnews.att.com> Sender: military@cbnews.att.com (William B. Thacker) Organization: Dept. of Wildlife and Fisheries Sciences, Texas A&M University Lines: 35 Approved: military@att.att.com From: hmueller@wfsc4.tamu.edu (Hal Mueller) >didn't the US Navy have a remotely controlled ASW helo drone? i >know that lots of older frigates still in commission have the >small hangar designed for this drone (most have since been >extended to support the manned ASW helos). as i understood it, >the ASW drone was discontinued for "loss of control" problems. The system was called DASH--Drone Anti-Submarine Helicopter. The BROOKE class FFG (originally DEG-1 through 6) was designed to carry two. They later operated with early versions of LAMPS (one LAMPS bird only). Since the BROOKE class was built on a GARCIA-class hull, it's plausible that the GARCIA class was originally meant to be a DASH platform as well. The GLOVER (a one-of-a-kind FF) was designed to carry one, and her JP-5 (jet fuel) system was designed to fuel only one; when I was aboard her I was told that that's the reason they weren't certified for in-flight refueling. GLOVER's flight deck was too small for any manned helo in service. I remember hearing, though I can't remember the source, that DASH's primary failing was that the operators liked to run the helos at the edge of their control range. When they flew out of range, they lost control. I've also seen a film of a DASH politely keeping station 100 yards abeam of the control ship and refusing all orders. -- Hal Mueller Remember that the only thing the USAF and USN have hmueller@wfsc4.tamu.edu ever agreed on is that the Army shouldn't have n270ca@tamunix.Bitnet fixed-wing aircraft. --Mary Shafer