Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!wuarchive!emory!att!cbnews!cbnews!military From: plains!umn-cs!LOCAL!thornley@uunet.UU.NET (David H. Thornley) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Command of Airpower Message-ID: <1990Nov30.021629.8207@cbnews.att.com> Date: 30 Nov 90 02:16:29 GMT References: <1990Nov29.002331.18628@cbnews.att.com> Sender: military@cbnews.att.com (William B. Thacker) Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis - CSCI Dept. Lines: 48 Approved: military@att.att.com From: plains!umn-cs!LOCAL!thornley@uunet.UU.NET (David H. Thornley) In article <1990Nov29.002331.18628@cbnews.att.com> crowl@cs.rochester.edu (Lawrence Crowl) writes: > > >From: crowl@cs.rochester.edu (Lawrence Crowl) >[Arguments in favor of concentrating all aircraft, including helicopters, > under the USAF.] > >With this approach you get naval air power by attaching naval-qualified air >force units to various ships, just as the air force attaches units to land >bases. > To the best of my knowledge, this has never worked. The air force concentrates on land-based planes and the carriers get screwed. Consider the Fleet Air Arm approach tried by the British between the wars, where the Royal Air Force was responsible for developing the Royal Navy's aircraft. The main result of this was that the Royal Navy was heavily dependent on U.S. naval aircraft designs for most of the war. The only navies with dominant carrier forces have been the USN and the Japanese navy (before 1945, of course). Each of these controlled their own aircraft. I would be very hesitant to change a system that largely works to one that has been unsuccessfully tried based on arguments from principle. In fact, it might be nice to try a system where the Army gets to run its own ground-support fixed-wing aircraft. This would at least end the current system where helicopters are asked to do things that fixed-wing aircraft are much better at. Whether it would ensure that the Army got decent support is another matter. (Historical note: For the invasion of Sicily in WWII, Patton asked the Navy for carrier support, despite the fact that Sicily was well within the range of airbases in Tunisia and Pantelleria. Patton claimed that the Army Air Corps was out to win the war its way, and paid no attention to the ground troops, while the Navy pilots would do anything the soldiers asked them to.) The Marines seem to like the system, although they fly Navy planes. To take the Marine example to an extreme: 1. The Air Force retains ICBMs, strategic bombers, and air defense fighters. 2. The Navy is responsible for all other aircraft design. 3. The Army gets to use whatever it wants for its own purposes, and perhaps can get a few aircraft designed for its own use. DHT