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From: mukesh@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Mukesh Patel)
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Subject: Re: Auditory Cyberspace
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Date: 29 Nov 90 15:47:17 GMT
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In article <11565@milton.u.washington.edu> eliot@phoenix.princeton.edu (Eliot Ha
ndelman) writes:
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>In article <1990Nov17.201222.22629@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> garry@cs-sun-fsc.cpsc.ucal
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>ary.ca (Garry Beirne) writes:
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>;> It's based around some notions of consciousness, especially of temporal
>;> integration & the possibilities of transmitting cognitive structure, as
>;> outlined in my PhD thesis "music as secondary consciousness: an
>;> implementation," which ought to be on the shelf within a few months.....
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>Yes. Consider Tom Nagel's famous article about what it's like to be a bat
>-- his point, of course, was that no amount of description of echolocation
>can give us an idea of "what it's like".

Here's my 2 penny worth - Surely Nagel's main thrust was not merely that
we dont have the ability to "see" what a bat does/can but that this would
be impossible because we dont have a semantics for what it "see".  So 
what semantics can music/sound have (other than the usually catch-all
terms like romantic, tragic, etc).

Mukesh Patel

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