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From: dhw@iti.org (David H. West)
Newsgroups: soc.feminism
Subject: Re: womyn-only space vs. men-only space?
Message-ID: <1990Nov26.050132.24561@iti.org>
Date: 29 Nov 90 21:00:51 GMT
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[The following is quoted without permission from the lead story of The
Detroit News and Free Press, Sunday Nov. 18, 1990, top of page 1; the
headline is "Black Male Classes: Step Forward or Back?".  Underneath
are two equally prominent follow-ons by different writers; the first
few paragraphs of the right-hand one, by Richard Willing, are as
follows:]

  BALTIMORE - The first thing Dontaye Carter noticed about his new third-
  grade class was who wasn't there: girls.
  
   The second thing was who was there: a tall black former college 
  basketball player named Richard Boynton, the teacher of the all-male 
  class.
  
    "Mr Boynton, he makes you want to do the work, so you just do it and
  you like it," said 8-year-old Dontaye.
  
    "You do it better because there aren't no girls around to make you 
  act silly.  It's fun to come to school now."

[The lengthy next paragraph contains the phrase "removing classroom
distractions like girls", this time explicitly attributed to
"administrators", as reported opinion, not as a verbatim quote.  The
left-hand follow-on to the headline is by Ron Russell, and begins by
describing a projected Detroit school which would implement these
ideas; the first four paragraphs discuss the intended positive effect
on the self-image of young black male students (only); the 5th and 6th
paragraphs are as follows:]

    Planning for the male-oriented academy, approved by the school board
  in June, has continued despite concern in the state Department of 
  Education about a federal ban on sex-segregated schools.
  
    Detroit officials hope to avoid a legal challenge by opening 
  enrollment to all students - while still designing the program primarily
  for black males.

----end of quotes from The Detroit News and Free Press-----

Do those soc.feminism readers who support womanspace see the above as
a supportable instance of boyspace?

-David West    dhw@iti.org