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From: ropg@ooc.uva.nl (Rop Gonggrijp)
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
Subject: Tele-Interview for student-newspaper
Message-ID: <16477@slice.ooc.uva.nl>
Date: 3 Dec 90 00:22:06 GMT
Organization: Hack-Tic
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Approved: ropg@ooc.uva.nl


I am posting this message for a friend of mine, because he is writing
an article for ...... What the .. Let him talk !

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Hi, I'm Marten and I'm working on an article for a student magazine in
Amsterdam. My subject is the following: In the Netherlands there will
soon be new laws against computer crime. I am interested in how those
laws will affect hackers here. Therefore I want to know something
about what has happened in countries where this kind of
law has already been implemented. I'm interested in your opinion of
the treatment of hackers by the public and by the government.

Reactions to the following statements are most welcome !

1) I'm making a distinction between:
   -`computer criminals', that is people that are using computers and
   computer networks to steal, commit espionage etc.
   and:
   -`Hackers', people fooling around and reporting what they find in
   the `electronic world'.

2) Since there are new laws to tackle `computer crime' and also new
   police actions, the public opinion on hackers has changed; the
   distinction I made in 1) has changed or even disapeared.

3) In practice the laws are working more against hackers than
   `computer criminals':
   Actions of `computer criminals' are not likely to be reported,
   because that will cause negative publicity to the victim, so no
   prosecution follows. (shown by recent research in the
   Netherlands)
   Since hacker activities may cause negative publicity
   and hackers tend to be open about there activities, they are more
   likely to be prosecuted.
   

Thanks already for reading this, even more thanks are your part if
you'd reply to the address this came from (ropg@ooc.uva.nl). Due to a
chronic deadline crisis, only replies that are in by yesterday will make it
into the article, but if it's very interesting, send it in before monday-night
if at all possible....

MRTN
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Rop Gonggrijp (ropg@ooc.uva.nl) is also editor of  Hack-Tic (hack/phreak mag.)
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