Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!kddlab!trl!rdmei!ptimtc!olivea!apple!usc!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!csd4.csd.uwm.edu!markh From: markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mark William Hopkins) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: Chinese Room Experiment: empirical tests Message-ID: <7989@uwm.edu> Date: 1 Dec 90 02:05:41 GMT References: <7852@uwm.edu> <1990Nov26.055429.8883@agate.berkeley.edu> Sender: news@uwm.edu Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee Lines: 18 On the question: If you undergo intensive immersion training of a language using no translation references is it possible to eventually converge onto an understanding of that language? In article <1990Nov26.055429.8883@agate.berkeley.edu> jwl@garnet.berkeley.edu (James Wilbur Lewis) writes: >I'll buy the idea that you might have a good feel for the syntax of a language >after such an intensive program of imitation, but *understanding*, in the sense >that Searle uses the term? No way! > >-- Jim Lewis A very similar situation is going on collectively with researchers who are progressively deciphering Mayan Hieroglyphic text ... and recently there has been some success at partially undercovering the meaning of the symbols. Even the little understanding accomplished to date is enough to prove that understanding may be possible without any substantial external references... Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com