Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!wuarchive!udel!rochester!sol!yamauchi From: yamauchi@cs.rochester.edu (Brian Yamauchi) Newsgroups: comp.ai.philosophy Subject: Re: Testing Intelligence (Re: Turing Test). Message-ID: Date: 4 Dec 90 19:09:17 GMT References: <4832@gara.une.oz.au> <1990Nov30.180650.26648@watdragon.waterloo.edu> <1990Dec1.020816.1372@watdragon.waterloo.edu> <1990Dec3 Sender: news@cs.rochester.edu (Usenet news) Organization: University of Rochester Lines: 32 In-Reply-To: greenba@gambia.crd.ge.com's message of 4 Dec 90 16:27:48 GMT In article greenba@gambia.crd.ge.com (ben a green) writes: In article greenba@gambia.crd.ge.com (ben a green) writes: > >Philip Nettleton recently posted a summary of what he thinks this >newsgroup regards as requirements on a system for it to be classified >as intelligent. In brief, > >a) The system must be able to learn from experience. >b) The system must be autonomous, independent of any operator. >c) The system must be able to reason. >d) The system must be able to develop self awareness. What I am trying to say, perhaps poorly, is not that reason and self-awareness are by definition limited to humans, but that they require language. Reasoning involves explicit use of language. Self-awareness needs language in its learning. The limitation to humans follows from the fact that only humans have highly developed languages. While I would agree that some form of language is required for logical reasoning, I don't believe this is the case for self awareness. What is required for self awareness is the ability to perceive the world as separate from the individual, and the ability to generate some model of one's self. This requires perception, motor control, and the ability to interact with a complex environment, but I don't think it requires language -- unless you want to consider any knowledge representation or data structure as an example of language. -- _______________________________________________________________________________ Brian Yamauchi University of Rochester yamauchi@cs.rochester.edu Computer Science Department _______________________________________________________________________________