Path: utzoo!utgpu!cunews!mitel!melair!dataco!corey From: corey@dataco.UUCP (Shawn Corey) Newsgroups: comp.ai.philosophy Subject: Re: Testing Intelligence (Re: Turing Test). Message-ID: <309@dcsun21.dataco.UUCP> Date: 5 Dec 90 14:30:52 GMT References: <4832@gara.une.oz.au> Reply-To: corey@dcsun17.UUCP (Shawn Corey,Comtek ) Organization: Canadian Marconi Company (Datacomm), Ottawa, Ontario Lines: 23 In article greenba@gambia.crd.ge.com (ben a green) writes: [material deleted] >IMHO paragraphs a and b are non-controversial, but paragraphs c and d >would rule out, say, cats, since reasoning and self awareness in any >non-trivial senses require language. Reasoning and self awareness do _NOT_ require language; expression of these (to other beings) require language. Another prime example of "If it ain't human, it ain't intelligent." As an aside, I have seen cats that reason in an unstructured enviroment. My friend had a cat and a dog. The dog was asleep at the bottom of the stars. The cat comes over, looks at the dog, looks up the stairs, looks at the dog, looks up the stairs. Then it goes up the stairs. Half a minute latter, it bounds down the stairs, lands on the dog and takes off. This is the observed behavior. My conclusion is that the cat reasoned that it could have a greater impact by bounding down the stairs and landing on the dog then by merely jumping on it. -- +---------------+--------------------------------------------------+ | Shawn Corey | "Never mind, Scotty, we'll test them in combat!" | | corey@dataco | -- famous Starfleet Captain | +---------------+--------------------------------------------------+