Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!julius.cs.uiuc.edu!apple!olivea!tymix!cirrusl!sun600!dhesi From: dhesi%cirrusl@oliveb.ATC.olivetti.com (Rahul Dhesi) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Sun's Competitive Strategy (Was: Re: P1754 Message-ID: <2764@cirrusl.UUCP> Date: 4 Dec 90 01:58:18 GMT References: <1990Nov16.225515.494@zoo.toronto.edu> <1990Nov25.194404.3376@dircon.uucp> <1635@unix386.Convergent.COM> <1990Dec2.014554.3491@Neon.Stanford.EDU> <2760@cirrusl.UUCP> Sender: news@cirrusl.UUCP Organization: Cirrus Logic Inc. Lines: 23 In <2760@cirrusl.UUCP> I wrote: >>The new Classic costs $750 at the Stanford >>Bookstore, and the waiting list for them is 2 months long. >Nope. "Classic" here means "obsolete". In this day and age of 28-MIPS >machines, what Apple does with an 8 MHz 68000 is utterly irrelevant. A number of people have protested in email and in follow-up postings. Some of them implicitly assumed that any discussion of MIPS must be about a Sun running UNIX. This is not so. The state-of-the-art today in single-user machines is anywhere from 10 to 30 MIPS depending upon your budget. People buying 80x86-based systems are mostly buying machines running 80286 and 80386 CPUs at 16 MHz or higher. The Apple Classic *does not* cost $750 in any usable configuration. (And educational discounts only benefit a small minority of users.) Add a decent amount of mass storage and other peripherals and you can easily pay $2,000 or more. There's just no comparison with equivalent 80386SX-based systems. -- Rahul Dhesi UUCP: oliveb!cirrusl!dhesi Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com