Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!newstop!texsun!convex!tighe From: tighe@convex.com (Mike Tighe) Newsgroups: comp.benchmarks Subject: bc is bs Message-ID: <109969@convex.convex.com> Date: 6 Dec 90 18:55:10 GMT References: <1990Dec6.133344.2544@cs.utk.edu> Sender: usenet@convex.com Organization: Convex Computer Corporation Lines: 27 Not only is the benchmark itself worthless, but so are the times reported by the benchmarkers. Why? Because the benchmark requires elapsed (real) times to be reported, and this number can only be reliable when the benchmark is run in dedicated mode. Look at these two examples: Cray Y-MP (6ns) 5.0 elm@sprite.Berkeley.EDU Cray YMP4/64 5.9 xxdon@monet.lerc.nasa.gov These are basically the same machines, yet one is 15% faster. Here is another example: Cray XMP4/8 7.8 xxdon@monet.lerc.nasa.gov Cray XMP (Unicos) 8.6 de5@ornl.gov A similar difference. And for a Convex, this erroneous time was reported. I wonder what the load was when this was run - 10? Convex C220 9.4 xxdon@monet.lerc.nasa.gov An advantage the RISC machines have is that they most likely to be personal workstations, therefore when bc is run they are already in a "dedicated mode". -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tighe, Internet: tighe@convex.com Voice: (214) 497-4206 Fax: (214) 497-4550 -----------------------------------------------------------