Path: utzoo!censor!geac!torsqnt!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!lll-winken!unixhub!shelby!neon!kaufman From: kaufman@Neon.Stanford.EDU (Marc T. Kaufman) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems Subject: Re: Big problems with modems that aren't grounded. What to do? Message-ID: <1990Dec4.172322.17585@Neon.Stanford.EDU> Date: 4 Dec 90 17:23:22 GMT References: <1990Dec4.023427.25652@panix.uucp> Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University Lines: 29 In article <1990Dec4.023427.25652@panix.uucp> alexis@panix.uucp (Alexis Rosen) writes: >I posted a query here a month or so ago, complaining about some very strange >problems with a bunch of 2400bps modems connected to my unix box. >While I'm not sure of this, it now seems likely that the problems are the >result of poor grounding. I think this because the Telebit performs flawlessly, >and the US Robotics nearly so. They both have three-prong (grounded) plugs on >their transformers. The other three modems (a Smart One, a Prometheus, and a >Maxxum) lack grounding, and they frequently die (although the Smart One is >rather less susceptible). >The problem is that the modems and the computer frequently fail to recognize >that DCD and/or DTR control lines have been raised. Thus, the modems may not >answer, and if they do, the getty may not complete the open. RS-232 pin 7 is the logic ground reference point for signals (e.g. DCD, DTR). In my experience, it is preferrable to ISOLATE the modem from system ground to avoid ground-loop voltage offsets. In any event, the green wire ground is not intended to carry current -- it is a protective circuit in case of failures in the modem power supply. It should be connected to the case and/or chassis, but NOT to logic ground in the modem. A more probable scenario is incorrect wiring of some of your AC outlets -- reversal of the Hot and Neutral leads. I have seen equipment that couples logic ground to the presumed Neutral lead (usually through .1 uf and 10-12K in parallel). If your plug is on another AC phase and wired incorrectly, you will see 60 Hz AC superimposed on your modem signals. Marc Kaufman (kaufman@Neon.stanford.edu)