Path: utzoo!censor!geac!torsqnt!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!julius.cs.uiuc.edu!apple!bionet!hayes.ims.alaska.edu!accuvax.nwu.edu!nucsrl!telecom-request From: Ed_Greenberg@3mail.3com.com Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: No Call Waiting Until Supervised Message-ID: <15130@accuvax.nwu.edu> Date: 30 Nov 90 16:39:00 GMT Sender: news@accuvax.nwu.edu Organization: TELECOM Digest Lines: 28 Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 10, Issue 858, Message 11 of 13 >Pac*Bell Weenie Note: In the Pac*Bell implementations of the 1AESS >(W.E. should never have provided them with the source!), you would >still get busy, even when dialing through Telecom*USA. PB's generic >will not allow CW or 3W until the first call is supervised. Pac*Bell >had some lame reason for doing this, but I forgot what it was. I think I like this feature ... It never occurred to me that it should work any differently. If your call hasn't supervised, and you get a call waiting, and answer it, your called party (of the first part :-) stands a good chance of answering and already being on hold. Also, you're already listening to ring or busy tone. Now you have to pick call waiting tones out of the tone jungle. Finally, what about a call that is abandoned half dialed and off-hook, or a line left off hook, or shorted? Surely that should return busy. When do you disable call-waiting? When the line goes to permanent signal? I also think that the CO implementation of traditional PBX features such as three way and call waiting should be a bit more idiot-friendly than their PBX counterparts. (Yes, I know, build an idiot-proof system, and only an idiot will be willing to use it.) Does anybody think that this is an incorrect philosophy? Is anyone REALLY bothered by not being able to get a C.W. while originating a call? edg