Xref: utzoo comp.editors:2157 comp.unix.questions:27419 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!joshi From: joshi@cs.uiuc.edu (Anil Joshi) Newsgroups: comp.editors,comp.unix.questions Subject: Re: vi Alternative Required Message-ID: Date: 7 Dec 90 01:23:20 GMT References: <1616@ukpoit.co.uk> <7471@castle.ed.ac.uk> Sender: news@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (News) Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 42 simon@castle.ed.ac.uk (Simon Brown) writes: >silly remark #1: > yeah, it's probably best to try to stick to one at a time. maybe two... Why? If there are a lots of choices, let everybody use what they want and are comfortable with. >> >>What I think I need is a new editor for them , these are the requirements : >> 2 . Look and feel the same as either Wordstar or IBM ISPF editor. >silly remark #2: > but didn't they just say that these are the other ones that make their > productivity plummet? maybe they meant "look and feel *not* the same as > ..." - a rather more likely request, i can't help thinking :-) This is really unfair. It is because of the users all of us programmers have our jobs. If the users want ISPF Editor's look and feel then that's what they should get. If you like UNIX and you want the users to use it then give them what they like - don't give them what you like. If you do that most probably that would be the last thing you would be giving them. I don't know how it works in other companies but the places I have worked, user has to be satisfied or else... If there was a lynch party, then there must be some truth in what they are saying. How can you judge their productivity? They are the ones who judged it and finally the verdict is out - they prefer ISPF to vi. Now however much you scream and shout, for what they want to do, they find that more productive. By screaming or becoming combative, you can't change that. Is it that difficult to change vi to emulate ISPF? If so, may be emacs can do the job (may be a tad slowly). Anil Joshi -- "Whatever we wish ourselves to be, we have the power to make ourselves. If what we are now has been the result of our own past actions,then it certainly follows that whatever we wish to be in the future, can be produced by our own present actions. how to act." - Vivekananda, Late Nineteenth Century Indian Philosopher Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com