Path: utzoo!censor!geac!torsqnt!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!ub!welte From: welte@sybil.cs.Buffalo.EDU (Martha Welte) Newsgroups: comp.edu Subject: Programming instead of math Message-ID: <49047@eerie.acsu.Buffalo.EDU> Date: 4 Dec 90 15:12:05 GMT Sender: news@acsu.Buffalo.EDU Distribution: na Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo/Comp Sci Lines: 22 Nntp-Posting-Host: sybil.cs.buffalo.edu Originator: welte@sybil.cs.Buffalo.EDU The name of the English course that includes word processing should be Ninth Grade Composition. Teaching word processing sufficiently to write papers should require no more than 3 class periods, plus two minutes a week to introduce any new wrinkles, such as underlining for bibliographies. The name of the course should focus attention on its purpose. I have taught my own children word processing and have taught college students word processing (no, I don't think that computer literacy should carry college credit, but it did where I was teaching. Not math credit, however.), so I know that both younger and older people than those you are teaching can learn basic word processing in three hours. As to where the schools (or perhaps parents or this culture) are failing: 25% of the freshmen entering the 4-year college where I taught couldn't do ninth grade algebra. And half of those couldn't learn it in a one-semester remedial course. They could neither distinguish a sentence from a non-sentence, nor write two sentences in a row without grammar errors. What shocked me even more was the number of students who had never been made to take ninth grade algebra. Even those who say that they are not going to college should have to take and pass algebra to get a high school diploma. This is clearly a failure of the high schools. If no standards are set, none will be met. Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com