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From: rgc@raybed2.msd.ray.com (RICK CARLE)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada
Subject: Re: Help purchasing ADA package for 68020 application
Summary: Verdix has a good reputation with me.
Message-ID: <1913@raybed2.msd.ray.com>
Date: 1 Dec 90 22:59:06 GMT
References: <777@forsight.Jpl.Nasa.Gov>
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In article <777@forsight.Jpl.Nasa.Gov>, lee@robotics.jpl.nasa.gov (Tom Lee) writes:
> 
> We are planning to purchase an ADA package for writing
> real-time application for 68020 target processors. 
> We would like to compile our programs on SUN4 to speed up
> compilation time.  Naturally we require a cross compiler to
> convert over to the 68020 targets.
> 
> We are considering 3 packages: Alsys, Verdix, and Telesoft.
> My understanding is that Verdix has the worst reputation among these 3.
> Do you agree?...

I don't agree at all.  I don't mean to start a flame war, just express
my opinion based on my personal experiences, but I prefer Verdix Ada
compilers to those of any of the 6 or more other vendors whose products
we've purchased over the last 7 years.

My experience with Verdix has been consistently positive since 1986.
The best things about Verdix compilers have been the strong Unix style
of the software development environment (Unix programmers can feel right
at home with tools such as a.make), fast and highly portable front ends,
and a complete Ada implementation.  Right after those come the excellent
source level symbolic cross-debuggers and the fine run-time system (just
as good, in my opinion, as Ready Systems' and better mated to the
compiler).  Customer support had been weak until about 1989 or so (maybe
earlier), when they beefed up the support staff and streamlined the
customer problem report handling.  Since then, it's been great for me.

(Last November/December I submitted 5 problem reports.  I told Verdix
that 4 were critical for my project and I needed fixes in March.  It was
only 2 weeks before the next version (6.0) was frozen.  One required
rewriting the fixed point arithmetic code generator.  All 4 got into
version 6.0 in March.  That sold me on Verdix customer support.)

The code generators had been only mediocre until version 5.5/5.7
(1988/9).  Since then, they've improved tremendously.  This year's
version, 6.0, has code generators at least as good as any Ada/68020
compiler, with the possible exception of Tartan.  Now the code is fast
and compact.  So is the run-time system.

My personal experience has been mostly with the VAX (Ultrix, Unix, VMS)
implementations of Verdix, except for one set of Ada/workstation
evaluations I did about 3 years ago.  I liked Verdix on the Sun best of
the various Ada/workstation combinations (TeleSoft wasn't included).

These opinions are, of course, strictly my own and not necessarily
shared by my employer.

	Rick Carle


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