Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!pitt!willett!ForthNet From: ForthNet@willett.pgh.pa.us (ForthNet articles from GEnie) Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth Subject: 1990 FORML Message-ID: <2057.UUL1.3#5129@willett.pgh.pa.us> Date: 7 Dec 90 02:11:32 GMT Organization: String, Scotch tape, and Paperclips. (in Pgh, PA) Lines: 53 Date: 12-03-90 (17:53) Number: 370 of 380 To: FRANK SERGEANT Refer#: 340 From: CHRIS WATERS Read: NO Subj: 1990 Forml Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: FORTH (58) Read Type: GENERAL (+) FS. I attended my first FORML. I'm very glad I did. Asilomar is beautiful, isn't it? I haven't been to ForML in several years, but I'll have to scrape together the cash again one of these days soon. FS. 2. Mitch Bradley sang. On the other hand.......... ;-) As for your arguments, I'll bite! I love to argue. Unfortunately, I can't find much to disagree with in what you said. But I'll try. FS. 1. The size and direction of F-PC. We've already got Turbo FS.Pascal and Turbo C. So? Why shouldn't we have a Turbo-Forth out there? Personally, if forced to use a Turbo-language, I'd rather it be Forth than much of anything else. Granted *I* wouldn't use this system for any real development work, but it seems like a good thing for the novice. FS. 2. That there is any sort of standards effort going on at all. Of course not! That would be contrary to the very nature of Forth! Seriously, though, while I'm sure the guys 'n' gals on the ANSI committee are doing their best, they're up against the fact that Forth is such a simple language, and so easy to modify, that it's almost impossible to resist the urge to go in and tweak the kernel slightly to optimize it for each application. I know I've never been able to resist this urge. FS. 4. I think it is absurd to distribute eforth as a MASM FS.listing. I can't argue with this one at all. Sorry. --- MM2.1a *Specializing in General Tomfoolery (& UNIX when convenient) --- * SFUTI 3.01 / Now accepting UNIX files! PCRelay:THECAVE -> #559 RelayNet (tm) 4.10 The Cave (408)259-8098 12/24/96/19.2 HST/DS <<<>>> ----- This message came from GEnie via willett through a semi-automated process. Report problems to: dwp@willett.pgh.pa.us or uunet!willett!dwp Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com