Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!att!news.cs.indiana.edu!uceng!minerva!dmocsny From: dmocsny@minerva.che.uc.edu (Daniel Mocsny) Newsgroups: comp.lang.fortran Subject: Re: Fortran vs. C argument Message-ID: <6866@uceng.UC.EDU> Date: 5 Dec 90 12:06:24 GMT References: <28621@usc> <1990Dec5.011038.12618@ariel.unm.edu> Sender: news@uceng.UC.EDU Organization: University of Cincinnati, Cin'ti., OH Lines: 37 In article <1990Dec5.011038.12618@ariel.unm.edu> john@ghostwheel.unm.edu (John Prentice) writes: >So are questions of the difficulty of learning the language (what, you >are not up to date on the latest theories of high temperature supercondutivity! >Where have you been, reading about programming languages? This is a severe problem. Every time I discover a new, potentially useful tool (FORTRAN, C, LaTeX, UNIX, etc.), I find that I can't get it to do a damned thing without a sustained full-time effort. First one has to plow through the 600 page manual. Then one has to translate one's problem into the new and unfamiliar ``paradigm''. When that goes up in smoke, one has to iterate to remove all one's numerous misunderstandings about the new, non-intuitive system. This takes time and effort, which can only come at the expense of one's primary career responsibilities. If those primary responsibilities are to play games all day with neat computer toys, that's great. Unfortunately, this isn't how most of the world happens to be set up. Don't get me wrong; I remain enthusiastic about all this nifty stuff. But a severe problem exists with all of it, namely, that the people who develop computer tools have little or no concern for minimizing the intellectual overhead that their inventions impose. This sends a clear message of disdain to the users, i.e., "I don't care what you happen to be thinking about most of the time. From now on, you are going to spend your time thinking about what I regard as worthy of thought." Sometimes I wonder if the computer revolution is nothing more than a conspiracy to appropriate the entire intellectual capacity of the industrial world? When I see M.D.'s pissing away their time trying to get their Lotus graphics look pretty, I have to wonder. -- Dan Mocsny Snail: Internet: dmocsny@minerva.che.uc.edu Dept. of Chemical Engng. M.L. 171 dmocsny@uceng.uc.edu University of Cincinnati 513/751-6824 (home) 513/556-2007 (lab) Cincinnati, Ohio 45221-0171 Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com