Xref: utzoo alt.folklore.computers:7727 comp.unix.internals:1252 comp.misc:10763 Path: utzoo!utgpu!cs.utexas.edu!know!sdd.hp.com!think.com!mintaka!bloom-beacon!eru!hagbard!sunic!mcsun!ukc!dcl-cs!aber-cs!athene!pcg From: pcg@cs.aber.ac.uk (Piercarlo Grandi) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.unix.internals,comp.misc Subject: Multics bloat??? Are you sure??? Message-ID: Date: 5 Dec 90 16:16:15 GMT References: <1YbxGQ#2fbT353y6xKD8DT83C4bFDpV=eric@snark.thyrsus.com> <1990Nov30.172512.5282@sctc.com> <1Ydnzg#6fNyr23fxBD30ZbOTr9Txc6Z=eric@snark.thyrsus.com> Sender: pcg@aber-cs.UUCP Organization: Coleg Prifysgol Cymru Lines: 23 Nntp-Posting-Host: odin In-reply-to: eric@snark.thyrsus.com's message of 1 Dec 90 23:01:26 GMT X-Old-Subject: Re: Jargon file v2.1.5 28 NOV 1990 -- part 5 of 6 On 1 Dec 90 23:01:26 GMT, eric@snark.thyrsus.com (Eric S. Raymond) said: eric> I will incorporate several of your corrections. Upon doing a eric> context grep for MULTICS it does seem that the references to it eric> are uniformly negative. That is unfair and was unintended; though eric> I agree with the charge that MULTICS became somewhat bloated and eric> at least partly a victim of design grandiosity, I also do think eric> that it expressed some of the best thinking about OS design in its eric> day and doesn't deserve to be `sneered at' by anyone. Especially as it is smaller and faster and more efficient than SVR4, or 4.3BSD, etc... Multics was a large system for its day -- it was slow when running more than a dozen users on a 1MIPS, 2MB machine :-). I remember enjoying excellent response time on an 8 MIPS, 32MB machine (approx.) when logged in with a couple hundred other users. I would really like having somebody tell us what is the wired down code size of a fairly recent Multics release (10, for example) vs. SVR4 or Ultrix or SunOS etc... -- Piercarlo Grandi | ARPA: pcg%uk.ac.aber.cs@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk Dept of CS, UCW Aberystwyth | UUCP: ...!mcsun!ukc!aber-cs!pcg Penglais, Aberystwyth SY23 3BZ, UK | INET: pcg@cs.aber.ac.uk Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com