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From: conrad@harvarda.harvard.edu (Conrad C. Nobili)
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Subject: Re: Help finding telenet software to perform ftp as remote
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Date: 4 Dec 90 21:40:26 GMT
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In article <131134@tiger.oxy.edu> schorsch@oxy.edu (Brent William 
 Schorsch) writes:
> I am currently using NCSA Telenet software (from Univ. of Illinois at 
 urbana
> with a MacSE appletalk connected to a fastpath -> ethernet to Usenet
> I currently have to connect to a local Sun Workstation and ftp from 
 there,
> then, ftp to my mac and send from the Sun to me, I would like to remove
> the middle step... ( I read a review in Macworld Jan 91, p. 207 on
> TCP/Connect II 1.0, has anyone used this?)
> How about a pd program like NSCA Telnet, (TCP/Connect is $495!!)
> Thanks, Brent Schorsch (schorsch@oxy.edu)

You describe an obvious need.  I will describe what I find to be a good 
(and cheap) solution.  I am sure you will also hear about the virtues of 
some of the commercial solutions.  Certainly you will hear about 
TCP/Connect II, as there seems to be a dedicated Intercon presence on this 
group :-) !  (btw, I am NOT complaining about too much commercial 
salesmanship or anything, as most posts mention some competing commercial 
or "PD" option, and there seems to be an effort to exhibit thorough 
knowledge of these options (understandably not always fulfilled 
completely, what with all that's out there and product changes)....)

I have found that HyperFTP works very well for ftp-ing directly from the 
Mac.  HyperFTP 1.3 can be gotten at various Mac archives (did I get mine 
from Sumex?).  I am sure that someone can provide the name of its "home" 
archive.

HyperFTP is a HyperCard stack, and may not be ideal for that reason 
(memory problems, disdain for HyperCard and the people who use it, etc.).  
It also requires Apple's MacTCP drivers, and so I guess it is not free if 
you don't already own them.  (You can get them for free if you buy 
Mathematica!  8-)  )  Despite various rumblings, I have found MacTCP 1.0.1 
to be very nice.  (It enables me to use the netnews reader stack that can 
be gotten as part of the MacTCP Toolkit from apple.apple.com by anonymous 
ftp, from which I am posting this.)

The greatest thing about HyperFTP, what makes it worth getting extra 
memory for your Mac if you need it (c'mon, it's less that $40/MB now) and 
swallowing your pride about HyperCard, is that it can AUTOMATICALLY 
UNBINHEX FILES AS THEY ARE BEING DOWNLOADED!!!!!  I really love this 
feature!  It has saved me many hours and lots of annoyance....

You can of course get NCSA Telnet 2.3.2 BYU from zaphod.ncsa.uiuc.edu by 
anonymous ftp.  If you cannot use MacTCP you can use the NCSA version of 
this.  Expect a TRULY CRUFTY, minimal ftp client.  It works, but the user 
interface stinks.

--Conrad

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