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From: jalkio@cc.helsinki.fi
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Re: A3000UX competition
Message-ID: <4134.275a6088@cc.helsinki.fi>
Date: 3 Dec 90 14:26:16 GMT
References: <2300@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca>
Organization: University of Helsinki
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In article <2300@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca>, lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca (Larry Phillips) writes:
> In <453@mathlab.math.ufl.EDU>, adin@Math.UFL.EDU (Adin Burroughs) writes:
> 
> Let's leave it at $4999, giving you 200 megs of disk, 8 megs of RAM, and a very
> usable configuratin.
>> 
>>  NeXT offering:
>> 
>>  8 Meg + 105 Meg NeXTStation.  You've heard me yap about it.  Better
>>  video than either of these (resolution-wise).  200 Megs of bundled
>>  software that neither of these can touch.  $3,500.  Add $750 for
>>  bigger drive to put bundle on.  Yes, you can get X for it, but why
>>  would you want to?
> 
> Maybe you want speed? I don't know how fast X would be on the NeXT, but it sure
> couldn't be any slower than the display postscript it comes with.

Maybe you haven't seen NeXTstep 2.0 running on a 68040 NeXTstation.

> 
>>  Price: $3,500 + $750 = $4,250.  All applicable discounts applied.
> 
> Yes.. all applicable discounts applied. CBM has both developer and educational
> discount programs in place, so the comparison is not even close to being valid.

Well, please tell the educ. prices, then.

> 
>>  Sun offering:
>> 
>>  SLC.  The standard archetecture for net-written software today. 
>>  You've seen it and worked with it.  It is probably faster than either
>>  of the other platforms.  $3,500 for unit + complete SunOS.  Add $750
>>  for drive.  Get X from Randy.
>>  
>>  Price: $3,000 + $750 = $3,750.  This is with all applicable discounts
>>  applied.
> 
> Yes, the SLC is faster than either of the other two. It is also very limited in
> expansion. You cannot make it colour. Max memory is less than either of the
> other two, and for hard disk, you are talking about external units only, with
> attendant cases/power supplies. Again, all applicable discounts for the price,
> so the comparison is again invalid.

WROONG. SLC is much slower than a 68040-NeXT. NeXTstation is supposed to
be even faster than a SparcStation 1+.

Note: When comparing the A3000UX and the NeXTstation you should remember
that the latter has a 68040 and a motorola DSP. The latter doesn't have
color in it's cheapest configuration, though.

			Jouni