Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!uupsi!sunic!news.funet.fi!hydra!hylka!jalkio From: jalkio@cc.helsinki.fi Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: A3000UX competition Message-ID: <4136.275af61c@cc.helsinki.fi> Date: 4 Dec 90 01:04:28 GMT References: <453@mathlab.math.ufl.EDU> <93075@aerospace.AERO.ORG> <86470@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu> <14659@sdcc6.ucsd.edu> Organization: University of Helsinki Lines: 38 In article <14659@sdcc6.ucsd.edu>, cleland@sdbio2.ucsd.edu (Thomas Cleland) writes: >> > Actually, the 3000UX outperforms NeXTs running the same chip. How interesting. So is the 3000UX even out yet? I suppose it will have a 68030. Well, ALL the NeXTs currently in production have the 68040. And the old NeXT's are being upgraded. And the NeXTstations and the new Cubes are out now (you have to wait a bit until you get the machine though, due to 68040 processor delays). And I think we have been comparing the 300UX to the NeXTstation. > I suspect Display PostScript has a lot to do with that. Amigas > run standard UNIX, if you'll permit me to play person from the > near future. NeXTs don't. NeXTs have a phenomenally integrated "Stantard UNIX"?!?!? There are 2 main camps on Unix. The other is BSD and the other AT&T. Both are quite common. Well, NeXT has adopted a special branch of BSD - Mach - but it is because Mach is the fastest version (especially for I/O) around (as far as I know) and it can handle multi-processors (this was a wise move, me thinks). Perhaps you think that BSD isn't a standard. Well, then you are wrong. > workstation things. I also think that the 3000UX will be a fine > workstation which will of necessity be competitively priced > (quotes vary widely on the release price). Comparable to NeXT, > outclassed by high-end SPARCstations. I still don't get how you can say that 3000UX is comparable to NeXT. It is same as comparing a 486 to a 386 (or even worse since NeXT has the DSP). Only thing that IS comparable in these two machines is the price. Jouni Alkio - I had about $3000 to spend - I looked at A3000 and Atari TT - And 386/486 - And MAC IIsi - ... but I will get a NeXT.