Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!kddlab!trl!rdmei!ptimtc!olivea!apple!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!ucsd!ucbvax!RICHTER.MIT.EDU!krowitz From: krowitz@RICHTER.MIT.EDU (David Krowitz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo Subject: Re: How to park a disc for shipment. Message-ID: <9011302223.AA26346@richter.mit.edu> Date: 30 Nov 90 22:23:40 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 47 The MD command "SH" does cause the disk drive to spin down for the older DN3xx and DN4xx/6xx models. On the DN4xx/6xx there is a head-locking arm on the drive that must be moved to secure the heads. I do not know of any similar mechanism on the DN3xx models. For DN3000/3500/4000/4500 machines, the "SH" command doesn't really do anything. What I have been told by our field-service engineers is that the shutdown sequence puts the drive in a safe position, and that the drive spins down when the power is shut off. There are no head-locking mechanisms mentioned in any of the DN3xxx/4xxx packing/unpacking manuals, and the drives themselves do not have any markings that would indicate action that you would need to take (the DN460/660 155MB drives actually had a sticker on them that said something like "move this switch before shipping", etc.). A word about HP's policy on shipping machines: they don't like customers shipping machines. If it doesn't work when it gets to the destination, it's your own problem. A valid maintenance contract at the old site does not cover fixing the machine at the new site. I had this happen to me this summer when several professors from universities around the country shipped four DN3xxx/4xxx machines to a conference in Boulder, Colorado. Even though all of the machines were on maintenance at their home universities, HP's Denver field service office refused to help us out with any of the problems we had (some people forgot their cables -:), others had left their external 350 MB drives (which contained the EDSI control-bus terminators!), etc.) until they had received an authorized purchase order for time & materials at something in excess of $100 per hour. We were told that HP's official policy is that the machines may only be shipped (and remain under contract) if you have made prior arrangements with HP and that they have packed the machines. Shipping them in the original containers and/or in custom-made, foam-lined, steel-reinforced, trade-show cases is apparently not sufficient. The bottom line: CALL YOUR HP FIELD SERVICE OFFICE AND TALK DIRECTLY TO THE BRANCH MANAGER *BEFORE* YOU MOVE YOUR MACHINES! -- David Krowitz krowitz@richter.mit.edu (18.83.0.109) krowitz%richter.mit.edu@eddie.mit.edu krowitz%richter.mit.edu@mitvma.bitnet (in order of decreasing preference)