Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!usc!ucla-cs!oahu.cs.ucla.edu!stephen From: stephen@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Steve Whitney) Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: Talking about other computers here Message-ID: <1990Dec3.173941.29280@cs.ucla.edu> Date: 3 Dec 90 17:39:41 GMT References: <1990Dec02.215601.7327@ecst.csuchico.edu> <1990Dec3.153120.27313@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> Sender: news@cs.ucla.edu (Mr. News) Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Lines: 46 Nntp-Posting-Host: oahu.cs.ucla.edu In article <1990Dec3.153120.27313@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> cmm1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Christopher M Mauritz) writes: >In article <1990Dec02.215601.7327@ecst.csuchico.edu> ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu (Ed Krimen) writes: ... >>And the reason is FCC approval. :^D Talk about deja vu. From what I >>understand, they can't even get Class B. > >This is a load of crap. Atari is always screaming about the FCC this, >the FCC that....FCC guidelines are published and most other manufacturers >seem to met them in a reasonable fashion. Perhaps, people should start >pointing the finger at the "engineers" who design Atari's products. >This is what happens when you try to cut corners and then try to >retro-fit the sheilding problem later on when you get busted. > >Regards, > >Chris That's not entirely true. This past summer, I worked for CalComp, and one of my responsibilities was some EMI testing. The VDE (German equivalent of the FCC) and the FCC have very similar requirements for radio frequency emissions testing (the levels are different, but so are the distances from which they are measured). The big difference is that the VDE is self- ceritfying, that is, if a VDE certified testing lab says you pass the limits with a certain margin, you can get automatic approval. The FCC, on the other hand, still requires that you submit results from a certified lab, but then they make you fill out some paperwork which takes approximately 3 months to process. You don't know if they will decide to check your results until they process the paper. Then it can take an indefinite period of time for them complete their own testing before giving you FCC certification. It is entirely possible that Atari didn't do anything at all wrong (or even questionable) this time, but given their track record, the FCC decided they'd be a good company to spot check. It might also be that the lab they used is being spot-checked. I believe that Atari met the FCC guidelines for the TT and was just waiting for the paperwork which _should_ have come back before Comdex. This is just a guess, though. Undoubtedly, the TT is shipping in Germany and the rest of Europe because it has VDE approval. Let's give Atari the benefit of the doubt on this one. --Steve -- Steve Whitney "It's never _really_ the last minute" (())_-_(()) UCLA Comp. Sci. Grad. Student | (* *) | Internet: stephen@cs.ucla.edu UCLA Bruin--> { \_@_/ } GEnie: S.WHITNEY (To Cal: We still have the axe!) `-----'