Path: utzoo!censor!geac!torsqnt!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!cunixf.cc.columbia.edu!cunixa.cc.columbia.edu!cmm1 From: cmm1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Christopher M Mauritz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: Just gripin'... Message-ID: <1990Dec4.143638.23718@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> Date: 4 Dec 90 14:36:38 GMT References: <2760@atari.UUCP> Sender: news@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (The Daily News) Organization: Columbia University Lines: 84 In article <2760@atari.UUCP> towns@atari.UUCP (John Townsend) writes: >in article , mboen@nixdorf.de (Martin Boening) says: >> >> In <36363@cup.portal.com> Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com writes: >> >>>Golly........! >>> >>>Where are all the Atari Cheerleaders....???? Ooooh, I feel a tug on the line. Looks like we got one... I guess he has a reason since it is his job at stake... >> Seems to me, nobody gives a damn about this kind of discussions any more. >> They've happened too often to care about. They don't add anything new to >> anyone's base of knowledge, they're not thrilling, they just bore people to >> death. I dunno about that. Seems to me that it is a unique opportunity to let the various companies know how you feel about their products/strategy in a timely fashion. Hey, if they don't like what they're hearing, then maybe they should change their ways? >> gotten tired of it. I have too, so this is it. Luckily I'm using the nn >> news reader so I can skip anything with suspicious Subject: lines. Hey man, if you want to stick your head in the sand and ignore what is going on around you, that is fine. That is your right. But trying to intimidate others to do the same is wrong. If you'll notice, it is the supposed "cheerleaders" who usually use the foul language and insulting tone. >Finally! Someone who sums up the entire situation. I remember when reading >news was fun and most of all a learning experience. Seems like the quality >of people and information here is slipping a great deal. Yeah, it used to be fun when there was some sense of life in the Atari computing world. However, as the ST's fortunes have faltered, so has the interest in talking about them. If you'd like to increase the S/N, why not post some decent articles once in a while instead of whining about the people you don't agree with. As an example, I would point towards Dave Haynie at Commodore. Check out comp.sys.amiga sometime and get a load of the wealth of straightforward information he provides to users on a regular basis. Take a look at all the people who post from Commodore and Apple on their respective groups. Atari people have pretty much dropped out of sight, except for an occasional message here and there. >Remember when you didn't need a news reader with a kill file? or nn to >sort through the trash and the good stuff. Well, if you choose to limit your scope by filtering people out, that is your business. I prefer to read all the articles so that I get a balanced point of view, rather than just the views of those I already know agree with me. >Maybe someday, comp.sys.atari.st will come back around to its intended >purpose in life: to discuss the Atari ST computer. In the meantime, I >guess we all have to use news readers like nn to get rid of the trash >that Bob Rotelle (and others) write. Maybe someday Atari Corp. will come back to life and there will be something interesting and exciting to talk about for a change. As for considering dissenting viewpoints trash, I would say that is a big part of the problem with yourself and Atari Corp. Maybe you should do more listening and less blustering. >------------------------------------------------------------------- >John Townsend ames!atari!towns >Atari Corporation >"I know I need something.. I just don't know what it is!" A more balanced perspective I suspect.... Cheers, Chris ------------------------------+--------------------------- Chris Mauritz |D{r det finns en |l, finns cmm1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu |det en plan! (c)All rights reserved. | Send flames to /dev/null | ------------------------------+---------------------------