Xref: utzoo news.groups:26203 comp.sys.att:11077 unix-pc.general:6747 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!ncar!ames!zorch!hico2!kak From: kak@hico2.UUCP (Kris A. Kugel) Newsgroups: news.groups,comp.sys.att,unix-pc.general Subject: NO on comp.sys.att.3b1 (yes on comp.sys.3b1) Summary: enumerated points listing several objections Keywords: unix-pc 3b1 7300 miniframe safari s4 convergent newsgroups Message-ID: <459@hico2.UUCP> Date: 4 Dec 90 15:37:18 GMT Followup-To: news.groups,comp.sys.att,unix-pc.general Organization: High Country Software Lines: 39 Evidently I've been missing the articles supporting comp.sys.att.3b1 instead of comp.sys.3b1. I'd like to place a STRONG objection to comp.sys.att.3b1, (or comp.sys.att..) 1. AT&T did not manufacture the 3b1, convergent did. 2. AT&T does not support the 3b1. AT&T does not even release some nice software packages that already exist and were written for the 3b1. (there exists, for example, a troff package with a 3b1 screen previewer that will even work with 8-pin or 24-pin printers). Although hardware upgrades and other such exist, they are entirely supplied by small-time independent organizations. 3. other convergent machines not sold under AT&T nameplate are compatable with the 3b1. (a new machine is binary-compatable) 4. the 3b1 is not compatable with any other AT&T machine. There's virtually no 3b1 bugs, disks, upgrades, graphics, etc. that the 3b1 has in common with existing or past AT&T products. (except those that it has in common with other system v machines, which would be a bigger class than AT&T) 5. the 3b1 user's group is very tight, and well defined. If a news site decided not to carry a high-volumen comp.sys.att, I'd rather they make a separate decision on whether to carry comp.sys.3b1. 6. as was mentioned before, there are already exist groups with names like comp.sys.commadore.amiga. comp.sys.3b1 cannot be ruled out by lack of precidence. Kris A. Kugel ( 908 ) 842-2707 {uunet,rutgers,att}!westmark!hico2!kak {daver,ditka,zorch}!hico2!kak internet: kak@hico2.westmark.com