Xref: utzoo sci.math:13894 comp.sys.handhelds:3977 Newsgroups: sci.math,comp.sys.handhelds Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!helios.physics.utoronto.ca!alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca!mroussel From: mroussel@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Marc Roussel) Subject: Re: The use of calculators in teaching calculus Message-ID: <1990Dec4.153739.14583@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> Keywords: Calculators, calculus Organization: Department of Chemistry, University of Toronto References: <4608@umbc3.UMBC.EDU> Date: Tue, 4 Dec 90 15:37:39 GMT In article <4608@umbc3.UMBC.EDU> rouben@math13.math.umbc.edu () writes: >Here are a few thoughts and ideas on the role of calculators >and computers in teaching freshman calculus. I am interested >to find out if there are others who share these thought, or if >there are some who disagree with me. Comments from both >teachers and students of calculus are welcome. Everytime I see a discussion along these lines, I get uncomfortable. It seems to me that lumping all "freshman calculus" into one box and asking this vague question is dangerous. There are different audiences for freshman calculus and their needs are different. The original poster said something about doing away with epsilon's and delta's. I certainly think that this is appropriate to a crowd of non-specialists, but I shudder at the thought of taking rigour out of your top-of-the-line course. There should always be a course available for students who want to understand rather than merely to become proficient with a certain set of skills. I am a chemical physicist who uses computer algebra a lot. These things have their place, perhaps even in senior classes. I believe however that one needs to learn to do things by hand before one begins to use machines to automate the tasks. I would be very concerned if the next crop of scientists coming along had no way of verifying the output of their calculations independently of the machine. I am looking forward to the discussion to which we will all be treated. Sincerely, Marc R. Roussel mroussel@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca