Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!apple!voder!pyramid!ctnews!tsnews!ward From: ward@tsnews.Convergent.COM (Ward Griffiths) Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy Subject: Re: tandy 2000-help Message-ID: <925@tsnews.Convergent.COM> Date: 4 Dec 90 23:10:39 GMT References: <90337.221530DPE101@psuvm.psu.edu> <90337.231316RFM@psuvm.psu.edu> Organization: Convergent Technologies, San Jose, CA Lines: 52 RFM@psuvm.psu.edu writes: >Tandy 2000 was produced (misproduced) by Tandy about 5-6 years ago. A real >Orphan. It has an 80186 microprocessor, not sure about speed. An ALMOST-MSDOS >machine. No MSDOS software will run on it out of box; Tandy got a few >companies to wrtie 2000-versions of their software; Lotus was one, I >forget others. It did great graphics. A dead-end machine. >I always thought that the Tandy 1200 was the best machine they ever built-- >a real truck. It was manufactired by Tandon. Tandy dropped it 'cuz >it wasn't precularly Tandy -- you could drop any card in it. Tandq >then opted for its 1000-series machines, which, if you bought one, pretty >closelty tied you to Tandy for upgrades, etc. They wouldn't take >full-size cards. Whay am I thinking about buying a Tandy? >Bob M. Actually, the 2000 was a damn fine machine well ahead of its time: a true 16-bit DOS machine that was introduced about a year and a half before IBM's PC/AT. The 80186 as 8 Mhz is faster than the original 6 Mhz '286, the graphics was far superior to anything available on "true" compatibles untill much later, and the keyboard had separate numeric/cursor keys, something IBM didn't think of for quite a while after that. The problem was that because of the different memory map of the '186, and the superior graphics, many programs which diddled with hardware directly to improve the pathetic performance of "true" compatibles rather than make documented system calls, especially just about anything with copy protection, would not run correctly. A lot of other programs worked fine right out of the shrink-wrap. The Tandy 2000 wasn't the only system that suffered from this, the TI Professional comes immediately to mind. But my T2K is running Wordstar 5 without a whimper. A lot of commercial software can also be made to run with fairly simple patches, many of which are maintained by an active bunch of users on CompuServe. Then again, I have a tendency to accumulate orphaned hardware. Besides my 2000, I've got a TRS-80 Model 16 running Xenix and an AT&T 3B1. The Tandy 1200, a "true" XT compatible was basically a piece of crap. Among other things, they had a 40% motherboard replacement rate during warranty. A big-time financial loser from the points of view of store managers, as warranty repairs are a black hole in the bottom line on which a Tandy store manager's bonus is based. -- The people that make Unisys' official opinions get paid more. A LOT more. Ward Griffiths, Unisys NCG aka Convergent Technologies =========================================================================== To Hell with "Only One Earth"! Try "At Least One Solar System"! "Let's get out of here. They've run out of meat. Funerals are a pain when there are more than twenty people. Never get enough to eat." Donald Kingsbury, "Courtship Rite": Gaet to Honey