Xref: utzoo news.software.nn:1361 news.software.b:6302 Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!att!linac!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!uunet!auspex!guy From: guy@auspex.auspex.com (Guy Harris) Newsgroups: news.software.nn,news.software.b Subject: Re: REPLY: Why use NN when there is TRN??? Message-ID: <4612@auspex.auspex.com> Date: 30 Nov 90 19:19:30 GMT References: <1990Nov23.160854.13868@vlsi.polymtl.ca> <1990Nov24.075800.23631@silvlis.com> Followup-To: news.software.nn Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara Lines: 72 >Yep... Trn sounds fine. But it isn't available to "the rest of us". Not true, actually - it's available to more folks than just those on the Internet.... >># Ftp Sources: caesar.cs.montana.edu After 5 pm... >># uunet.uu.net (under /news) ... >Nice, but no help to us poor UUCP-only sites. But with the added information that "uunet.uu.net" is also a UUCP site (obviously), that it offers a 900 number that non-customers can use to retrieve stuff, that its anonymous FTP directory is also its "uucppublic" directory, and that UUNET also sells tapes of its archives as well, it *is* of help to UUCP-only sites - or, at least, those in the US and possibly Canada (I don't know what the scoop is outside those countries, but on other continents you might want to retrieve it from an archive nearer to you regardless of whether you're using UUCP *or* FTP). The files in question are in the "news" subdirectory of the anonymous FTP/"uucppublic" directory, so you want to retrieve "~/news/trn.tar.Z". If you're a UUNET customer, you should be able to just do uucp uunet!~/news/trn.tar.Z If you're not, the 900 number for anonymous UUCP is +1-900-GOT-SRCS; the charge is 40 cents per minute. I don't know how you set up anonymous UUCP to UUNET; presumably somebody else out there knows, or you can probably just call UUNET or mail to them using the phone number or email address in the blurb below. For getting the archives on tape, the blurb from UUNET is: UUNET Source Archives on Tape UUNET is making its collection of freely redistributable UNIX source archives available on tape to any interested parties. UUNET has over 500 megabytes of source archives on line for UUNET subscribers to access. These archives are now available to anyone. They are distributed on three 6250 bpi half inch tapes. All files are compressed (except the compress program itself) to save space. The all inclusive cost of these tapes is $225 with prepayment or $275 otherwise. The distribution is also available on seven 1/4" cartridge tapes (QIC-24, 60 megabyte tapes, Sun com- patible) for an additional $175. (i.e. $400 prepaid, $450 other- wise) All sources are the latest available versions at the time the tape is written. Included on the tape are the MIT X Window System, Version 11 Release 4 plus fixes and lots of contributed software (200 megabytes); the complete comp.sources.unix archive (80 megabytes); the TEX text processing system (46 megabytes); all available GNU software (40 megabytes); the complete comp.sources.games archive (40 megabytes); the freely redistri- butable software from the 4.3BSD-Tahoe & Networking releases of Berkeley UNIX (20 megabytes); various networking related programs (30 megabytes); all the Internet RFCs (14 megabytes); the comp.std.unix standards archives (10 megabytes); and lots more. To obtain the tape distribution or for further information contact: UUNET Communications Services 3110 Fairview Park Drive, Suite 570 Falls Church, VA 22042 +1 703 876 5050 (voice) +1 703 876 5059 (fax) info@uunet.uu.net