Xref: utzoo sci.bio:4053 alt.romance:5641 soc.men:24040 soc.women:30165 soc.singles:74372 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!VAX1.CC.UAKRON.EDU!mcs.kent.edu!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!eagle!news From: rqdms@lims03.lerc.nasa.gov (Dennis Stockert) Newsgroups: sci.bio,alt.romance,soc.men,soc.women,soc.singles Subject: Re: Are Humans Naturally Monogamous? Message-ID: <1990Dec3.183326.979@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov> Date: 3 Dec 90 18:33:26 GMT References: <1990Nov15.141028.25126@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov> <1990Nov15.194025.27299@ariel.unm.edu> <1990Nov16.203058.7780@ariel.unm.edu> <593@saxony.pa.reuter.COM> Reply-To: rqdms@lims03.lerc.nasa.gov Distribution: na Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center Lines: 42 News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4 In article <593@saxony.pa.reuter.COM>, dgil@pa.reuter.COM (Dave Gillett) writes... > > I think you're redefining terms to pervert (!) the question. Sure, some >humans are monogamous. Many more believe they should be monogamous, but would >have to admit that their own lives fall a bit short of this goal. > The question is not "Are humans mmonogamous?", because we all know that >they're not. The question is "Are humans NATURALLY monogamous?", because it >involves an attempt to recruit support for the MORAL position that humans >OUGHT to be monogamous, that to be otherwise is UNNATURAL and thus IMMORAL. > > If humans were NATURALLY monogamous, they would mate for life. Period. >No dating around before marriage; no running around after marriage; no divorce. >"Serial monogamy", such as you describe, is a rationalization, an attempt to >make a behaviour which is NOT "natural monogamy" acceptible as a moral >alternative while continuing to believe that something "other people" do, >which is also not "natural monogamy", is still immoral and unnatural. > > "Natural" implies an inborn imperative. Your model of "serial monogamy" >allows a person to choose different partners at different times in their lives; >you CANNOT use this as an argument for an inborn rejection of different >partners! If people "naturally" have the ability to choose different partners >in their lives, then they, equally naturally, have the ability to choose >different partners. > We invest huge amounts of energy in this culture to encourage (and even >enforce!) monogamy. If there were any sort of biological imperative for it, >the combination would be unstoppable. The success rate of our culture in this >area is so low that we must suspect that any biological imperative, if present, >MUST be working in the other direction. I tried to make this same point earlier in this thread in much simpler fashion (perhaps to the detriment of the point ;-) ... hope you have better luck than I did... *********************************************************************** * Dennis Stockert * The meek shall inherit the earth; * * rqdms@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov * the rest of us will go to the stars * ****************************************** Aviation Week ************** * No one that knows me would mistake my opinions for those of * * any respectable organization * *********************************************************************** Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com