Xref: utzoo sci.bio:4083 alt.romance:5664 soc.men:24102 soc.women:30276 soc.singles:74548 Path: utzoo!utgpu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!bu.edu!lll-winken!uunet!microsoft!rodvan From: rodvan@microsoft.UUCP (Rod VAN MECHELEN) Newsgroups: sci.bio,alt.romance,soc.men,soc.women,soc.singles Subject: Re: Are Humans Naturally Monogamous? Message-ID: <59596@microsoft.UUCP> Date: 6 Dec 90 02:37:48 GMT References: <1990Oct24.175532.9407@pmafire.UUCP> <1990Nov8.205905.1627@oracle.com> <1990Nov26.005512.16483@massey.ac.nz> Organization: Microsoft Corp., Redmond WA Lines: 72 In article <1990Nov26.005512.16483@massey.ac.nz>, A.S.Chamove@massey.ac.nz (A.S. Chamove) writes: > Rod > > You say (about drinking alcohol) that > 1--there is no sane reason for it > 2--that it does nothing to promote survival > 3--ideally no one would do it That's right. > > The interesting thing about alcohol drinking is > 1-that it is so universally performed > 2-that so many sane people do it. I agree with point #1; but what makes you think point #2 is true? > > It has a lot of calories which are desirable in less-affluent countries. Nutritionists used to call these "empty calories." Dunno what they call 'em these days, but what's so good about them. The metabolite of alcohol (acetylaldehyde) is a potent free radical that does no one good. In fact, one of the interesting things you may observe about strict Mormons is that they tend to look quite a bit younger than members of other religions their own age. Now, not all of this is due to the fact they (the strict ones) don't drink alcohol, but that has a lot to do with it. > It makes people feel good. Short-term feelings of drug-induced well-being followed by the "hangover." > It is relaxing. In small amounts it acts as a stimulant, in larger doses it acts as a depressant, and in big, big doses it kills. > It seems to have unspecified "beneficial" social properties. Only in a "drug society" would anyone suggest such a sill thing. > > It seems to me that people behave very sanely, and insane or irrational > behaviour is quite rare. OF course there is a lot of behaviour that Obviously, you don't have freeways in New Zealand! <-; > OTHERS do that does not act in our interest (someone drinking and then > driving; someone making millions for themselves by cutting down the > rainforest; someone trying to improve their scientific career by > introducing African bees to South America). I wonder if we understood > behaviour rather more, if we could understand the reason/rationalle for > even people who appear to go berzerk and kill several others apparently > without cause. > So, since when does an irrational act by one make an irrational act by another "rational"? > Arnold Chamove OO \/ Rod Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com