Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!hal!mark From: mark@mips.COM (Mark G. Johnson) Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: Re: schmitt trig. nand configurations (HYSTERESIS !) Message-ID: <43743@mips.mips.COM> Date: 3 Dec 90 14:33:05 GMT Sender: news@mips.COM Reply-To: mark@mips.COM (Mark G. Johnson) Organization: MIPS Computer Systems, Inc. Lines: 25 (brian l wybaillie) asks whether it is preferable in a *Schmitt* *Trigger* NAND4 (74xx13) to construct an inverter by tying all 4 input pins to the input signal, or perhaps better to hook 3 of the 4 inputs to V+ and thereby load the input signal less. Shailendra and Marvin (and others) replied that input loading and board layout concerns should be the deciding factors. However they didn't address the effect of these connections upon the hysteresis of the gate {which is presumably the reason Brian is using a '13 instead of a '10}. The Internal Guts (TM) of the 74xx13 consists of four independent Schmitt trigger noninverting buffers, followed by a standard TTL NAND gate. So the four input signals don't mutually interact to set the logic threshold voltages. Each individual 74xx13 device might, of course, contain some miniscule fabrication mismatches that would render the trigger voltages on the 4 Schmitt buffers *slightly* different ... in which case the Shailendra circuit (3 to VCC, 1 to Input) would have a teencie bit less hysteresis than the Marvin circuit (4 to Input). It would however be unwise to depend upon this. -- -- Mark Johnson MIPS Computer Systems, 930 E. Arques M/S 2-02, Sunnyvale, CA 94086 (408) 524-8308 mark@mips.com {or ...!decwrl!mips!mark} Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com