Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!cbnews!cbnews!military From: bcstec!shuksan!major@uunet.UU.NET (Mike Schmitt) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: comments to sci.military articles Message-ID: <1990Dec4.003414.11398@cbnews.att.com> Date: 4 Dec 90 00:34:14 GMT References: <1990Nov21.223201.22165@cbnews.att.com> Sender: military@cbnews.att.com (William B. Thacker) Organization: The Boeing Co., MMST, Seattle, Wa. Lines: 62 Approved: military@att.att.com From: bcstec!shuksan!major@uunet.UU.NET (Mike Schmitt) In article <1990Nov21.223201.22165@cbnews.att.com>, graper@BRL.MIL (MTSD/FIO) writes: > From: Graper Brad P (MTSD/FIO) > Brigade Commanders are Colonels in brigades which are with a division. > Brigade Cdrs are BGs when they command a separate brigade, or a brigade > which is deployed separately from the parent division (like 1st ID (FWD)) The 1st Inf Div (Forward) is commanded by a Brigadier General - however, he is not the brigade commander, as such. Divisions have two BGs - Assistant Division Commanders (ADC). Normally one is 'ADC-Manuever' and the other is 'ADC-Support'. The CG, 1IDF is one of those ADCs (ergo, only one ADC at Fort Riley - HQ 1ID) Organizationaly, the 1st IDF consist of the division's 3rd Brigade ("Iron Brigade"), reinforced with about 1/3 of the division's combat, combat support, and combat service support units. There is a brigade commander for the 3d Brigade - who also acts as the BG's assistant division commander. While operating "separately" the 'brigade staff' assumed the roles of the 'general staff'. So, while I was the S2 of the Brigade - I was also the G2 of the Division Forward. Operationally, VII Corps considered us their 'Separate Brigade' - their reserve force in back of the 3d ID, 1st AD, and 3d ACR. However, during a REFORGER we would 'chop' back to our parent unit, 1st ID, when they arrived. The 1st IDF consists of the following (or did when I was with them): 3rd Brigade 1-26 Inf Bn (Mech) 1-16 Inf Bn (Mech) 4-73 Armor Bn 1-76 Arty Bn (155 SP) C Troop/1-4 Cav C Co/1st Engineer Bn D Btry/2-67 ADA Bn (C/V) D Co/1st MI Bn C Co/1st Avn Bn(-) D Co/1st Signal Bn 3d Fwd Spt Bn/DISCOM D Co/701 Maint Bn D Co/1st S&T Bn D Co/1st Med Bn C Co/501st QM Bn (some of my nomenclature may be off) Unique in personnel management, a 'Big Red One' soldier rotating to Europe from Fort Riley had 'first choice' to go to the 1st ID Forward. And rotating stateside - someone coming from 1st IDF had a first choice to return to the 1st ID at Fort Riley. mike schmitt "No Mission Too Difficult - No Sacrifice Too Great - Duty First!" Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com