Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!bu.edu!att!cbnews!cbnews!military From: x13245i2@usma6.usma.edu (Obrien Patrick CDT) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: RE: Autorotation of Harriers Message-ID: <1990Dec6.021723.18639@cbnews.att.com> Date: 6 Dec 90 02:17:23 GMT Sender: military@cbnews.att.com (William B. Thacker) Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 41 Approved: military@att.att.com From: x13245i2@usma6.usma.edu (Obrien Patrick CDT) I was confused by the question but I think I may have the answer. Autorotation - this is a state in rotary wing aircraft where the blade is producing lift due to the remaining rotation of the blades. I did autorotos at Hunter AAF this summer and it was fun. I learned why it worked when I got back to academics this year. Helicopters are designed so that when the collective is bottomed out, part of the blade is acting as a pinwheel (called the driven portion) and some acts as a fan (in the "windmill prop state") The outer portion provides lift and the inner portion is driving. The two forces come to equilibrium and the helo settles into a steady descent rate. At the end near the ground, the pilot pulls up the collective and turns the whole blade into the thrusting portion allowing kinetic energy of the blades to be converted to lift. Of course, you can only do this once, for when the kinetic energy is gone... no lift, so you had better be on the ground by the time you run out. Harriers use pure thrust of mass amounts of air moving at high velocities to hover. Thrust in Newtons = (mass flow (kg/sec) of air) x (velocity of air (meters/sec)) x (area (square meters)) If that turbine engine shuts off, the flow stops immediately. No mass flow, no thrust. So if that harrier is not moving forward when the engine quits, look out below. Autorotation, therefore, does not apply to Harriers. It is quite unique to helicopters and even then, it is a designed condition. (believe me - I know) Everyone watch on 8 Dec as ARMY Kills navy in football. Also learn how we stole their goat. HA! Beat Navy! I hope this is not too technical and feel free to write me if you have any questions on what I've written. I'll use a small sig file as Mr. Thacker yelled at me last time I tried to be motivated about my branch. :-) [mod.note: I remember that one... esprit d'coredump. 8-) - Bill ] 1 / / Patrick C. O'Brien 2 /\ / / Cadet USMA 3 | \/______-----/ /----\_| x13245i2@usma6.usma.edu 4 |/ /-----------/ /-----/~| (914) 938-5466 Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com