Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!usc!orion.oac.uci.edu!ucivax!gateway From: ames!amdcad!netcom!avery@ncar.ucar.EDU (Avery Colter) Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: Re: woman-only space... Message-ID: <17857@netcom.UUCP> Date: 2 Dec 90 06:54:53 GMT Organization: Netcom- The Bay Area's Public Access Unix System {408 241-9760 guest} Lines: 24 Approved: tittle@ics.uci.edu Nntp-Posting-Host: zola.ics.uci.edu Matt Austern wrote: > just an observation that today, in the world we live in, organizations > like SWE play a different role in society than do organizations like > the Bohemian Club; that many women's groups exist for the purpose of > inclusion, not exclusion. The social context just isn't the same; why > should we pretend that it is? I've never heard of SWE being strictly woman-space. The Berkeley campus chapter has traditionally being very forward in making the male students aware that they are allowed to join. There was an assertion of woman-space by NAAFA's Feminist SIG at one point last year though. Basically they wanted to preserve woman-space at the SIG's meetings at conventions. I have not heard any protests from any of the men who'd originally raised questions about it. There are some, though less, cases of some of the men creating man-space. There seems to be enough communication in mutual space that having times for faction-space doesn't bother anyone severely. -- Avery Ray Colter {apple|claris}!netcom!avery {decwrl|mips|sgi}!btr!elfcat (415) 839-4567 "I feel love has got to come on and I want it: Something big and lovely!" - The B-52s, "Channel Z" Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com