Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: stevep@cadence.com (Steve Peterson) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Once Saved, Always Saved? Message-ID: Date: 6 Dec 90 09:23:53 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Lines: 41 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu In article <2974@unccvax.uncc.edu>, elizabeth s tallant writes: |...the Bible teaches that once a person |has salvation, that salvation can never be taken away. A person who has |salvation is a Christian, and most Christians love God, therefore, they |do not believe that there is any chance of them ever going to hell. Many people that I have talked with in the past have mentioned that because they have "accepted Jesus" they are thus saved and by extension "Always saved". I was just wondering how to reconcile this idea with these scriptures ..... Matt 24:13 "He who endures to the end will be saved" So a person's final salvation is not determined at the moment that he begins to put faith in Jesus. Phil 2:12 "As you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling." This was addressed to "the saints" or "holy ones", at Philippi, as stated in Phil 1:1. Paul urged them not to be overly confident but to realize that their final salvation was not yet assured. Heb 10:26, 27 "If we sin deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth,ther no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a fearful prospect of judgment, and a fury of fire which will consume the adversaries." Thus the Bible does not go along with the idea that no matter what sins a person may commit after he is "saved" he will not lose his salvation. It encourages faithfulness. Also, Heb 6:26,27 is very interesting...... Best Regards...... Steve Peterson ---- stevep@cadence.com or ...!uunet!cadence!stevep