Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!know!sdd.hp.com!think.com!linus!philabs!puka!dml From: dml@puka.Philips.Com (Damian M. Lyons) Newsgroups: comp.ai.philosophy Subject: Re: intelligence definition, reasons for Keywords: intelligence, awareness, implications Message-ID: <114533@philabs.Philips.Com> Date: 7 Dec 90 18:25:07 GMT References: <14759@sdcc6.ucsd.edu> Sender: news@philabs.Philips.Com Reply-To: dml@puka.UUCP (Damian M. Lyons) Organization: Autonomous Systems, Philips Labs, Briarcliff Manor, NY Lines: 53 In article <14759@sdcc6.ucsd.edu> jude@sdbio2.ucsd.edu (Jude Poole) writes: >I've been watching the definition of intelligence debate and its >associated chinese room arguments and I have an observation. > > .. [ two interesting reasons for defining intelligence ] .. > > >We would certainly want to know if some purportedly self aware computer >performing a critical task 'asked' to be relieved of the task because it >didn't want to do it was doing so because it was really sentient or >merely had been programmed by some malcontent to do so. I personnally >don't believe you can create awareness in a computer at all. My reasons >are largely philosophical and the 'Turing test' does nothing at all to >address them. To me a machine that passes the 'Turing test' is a >tremendous accomplishment and a vindication of the pie-in-the-sky AI >types, but ultimately in ethical terms I'll consider such a thing to be >merely an interesting machine. Interesting breakdown. (Sound of can of worms opening.) Perhaps you would share your `ethical equivalence' test criteria with us. I assume they are better than ethical-equivalent(entity,likeus) iff I. *entity* is known to be *likeus*, or II. *entity* is not known to be *likeus*, but can pass moral-correctness-test-of-my-choice. where we are interested in ethical-equivalent(turing-test-passing-machine,human) Personally, if a turing-test passing machine asked me to releave it of its function, I would be as likely to comply as I would comply with my friend Fifi's request that we not see each other again, even should I suspect that Fifi was bribed (in a Wodehouse-like fashion) by my rich aunt who thought the family honour was at stake. Damian. PS. II is also known as the principle of spanish inquisition :-) > >Jude Poole >jpoole@ucsd.edu _________________________________________________________________ Damian M. Lyons | x6444 | dml@philabs.philips.com _________________________________________________________________ -- _________________________________________________________________ Damian M. Lyons | x6444 | dml@philabs.philips.com _________________________________________________________________