Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!uwm.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!julius.cs.uiuc.edu!news.cs.indiana.edu!msi.umn.edu!cs.umn.edu!quest!digibd!merlyn From: merlyn@digibd.com (Brian Westley (Merlyn LeRoy)) Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk Subject: Re: "Bad" backups Message-ID: <1990Dec08.171628.10447@digibd.com> Date: 8 Dec 90 17:16:28 GMT References: <1990Nov22.123610.27246@eff.org> <1990Nov29.164728.504@digibd.com> <1990Nov30.133254.3737@eff.org> Organization: DigiBoard Incorporated, St. Louis Park, MN Lines: 31 In article <1990Nov30.133254.3737@eff.org> mnemonic@eff.org (Mike Godwin) writes: >>This seems to be a difference over theory vs. practice. ... >Apparently you are unaware that a substantial percentage of the >seizures were based on no-knock execution of warrants, Merlyn. >With all due respect to you, my job requires me to be up on the >details of these seizures. Yes, but my point was that, so far, impounded machines are routinely turned off when seized; I haven't heard of any cases where the machines (PCs, at least) were deliberately left in place, with power, to prevent this. ... >>And if I advocated "keep everything in your memory" I'd be >>confirming brainwashing techniques? > >No, I never said this. Keeping information in your own memory, >rather than in your computer's memory, implicates the Fifth >Amendment privilege against self-incrimination. And I never approved no-knock searches by ignorant, incompetent authorities, but I'm willing to provide suggestions on how to beat them at their own sorry game. You seem to think my suggestion (keeping everything in RAM) was legitimizing their fascist tactics; I think it combats their tactics by staying ahead of them, and makes their police state mindset more obvious and open to criticism. To each his own, I guess. --- Merlyn LeRoy