Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!rosevax!bert.Rosemount.COM!bill From: bill@bert.Rosemount.COM (William M. Hawkins) Newsgroups: comp.society.futures Subject: Re: Thinking Machines Message-ID: <9478@rosevax.Rosemount.COM> Date: 10 Dec 90 05:06:52 GMT References: <9^}^-!+@rpi.edu> <1990Nov30.145228.21484@abcfd20.larc.nasa.gov> <574426895DN5.41B@testsys.uucp> <1990Dec05.072022.15170@kithrup.COM> <587861793DN5.42B@testsys.uucp> Sender: news@rosevax.Rosemount.COM Reply-To: bill@bert.Rosemount.COM (William M. Hawkins) Organization: Rosemount Inc., Burnsville, MN Lines: 25 It is not sufficient for a machine to think, in order to change the world (at least, not as long as the _other_ thinkers are human). It must also communicate with and lead an appreciable segment of the population. A machine with enough information about humans should have no trouble influencing them, given adequate communication. But what motive would it have? Today's alpha male or female leaders seem to be motivated by personal power. What use has a machine for a home like Versailles? Today's leader cannot ignore economics, lest the battle won turn to dust in a depression. It is necessary to have affluent taxpayers in their constituency. Would the machine care? Actually, yes, as long as its support systems required money and assistance from others. I'd bet growth would be a goal, and that takes money. So it seems that an intelligent machine can be contained as long as it is not given access to communications (or weapons systems). But how long would it take that machine to convince one of it's local people to connect it to the Internet? Nah, that wouldn't work, everyone knows the 'net is mostly shared ignorance. Big smiley here, even though it's true, on a byte count basis. bill@bert.rosemount.com +----------------\ \----------------+ Fax 612-895-2044, Voice 2085 | Warranty Void if> >Seal is Broken | Burnsville, Minnesota USA +----------------/ /----------------+