Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!ucsd!ucbvax!bloom-beacon!deccrl!news.crl.dec.com!pa.dec.com!bacchus!mwm From: mwm@raven.relay.pa.dec.com (Mike (My Watch Has Windows) Meyer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Windowing on the Amiga vs. RISC workstations (Was: A3000UX competition) Message-ID: Date: 8 Dec 90 00:58:06 GMT References: <6057@crash.cts.com> <1990Dec5.061558.21893@engin.umich.edu> <1990Dec5.234035.23604@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> <677@storm.UUCP> Sender: news@pa.dec.com (News) Organization: Missionaria Phonibalonica Lines: 34 In-Reply-To: bostrov@storm.UUCP's message of 7 Dec 90 06:05:33 GMT In article <677@storm.UUCP> bostrov@storm.UUCP (Vareck Bostrom) writes: Really? I don't think so. Running X on a MIPS magnum or a DEC5100 (with whatever ontop of it) blows away the ami. Even the 040 ami and the 040 NeXT. I wouldn't bet on that last one. The the DEC 5100 is a figment of your imagination (unless you've got an EFT of a new machine that I haven't heard of, which is unlikely - we get them for IFT before they go EFT). The currenlty released DECStations are the 2100, the 3100, and the 5000/200 line. These use the R2000 @12MHz, @16MHz, and the R3000 @25MHz, respectively. I use the DS3100 on a daily basis (I'm sitting in front of it now). It's a killer machine - no question about that. It's the first Unix workstation I've run into that could consistently shuffle windows faster than my Amiga 1000. But it doesn't keep up with my Amiga 3000; not for graphics, at least. An '040 equipped Amiga 3000 should easily be 2+ times as fast as a stock Amiga 3000. The DS5000/200 (sans graphics options) is 70% faster than the DS3100. The '040 based Amiga should blow it away for graphics. It's even possible that the '040 based Amiga will have a faster CPU; I've heard quotes on the '040 up to 25 MIPS, whereas DEC quotes the DS5000/200 at 24 MIPS (once again, I wouldn't bet on that). Note that the DS5000/200 can have graphics boards added, the high end being a high-speed i860 (it's possible I've got the wrong intel chip). That will almost certainly blow away anything you can put on an Amiga. On the other hand, I could buy 15-20 A3000/40's for the cost of one, but you can't parallelize graphics that way.