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From: cmm1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Christopher M Mauritz)
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Subject: Re: TT's and NeXT
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Date: 7 Dec 90 16:53:17 GMT
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In article <4169.275eb314@cc.helsinki.fi> jalkio@cc.helsinki.fi writes:
>>> Realy???  How much?
>>> 
>>> Just to piss glh off...I saw a demo of the new NextStation today.  Someone
>>> earlier mentioned that the windowing system was very slow.  That doesn't
>>> seem to be a problem.  Seems that when you throw a 25mhz 68040 at the GUI,
>>> it seems fine.  I didn't notice any slowness.  However, the machine wasn't
>>> running THAT many tasks at the time either.  The educational pricing makes
>>> the thing so cheap that you could throw in the NeXt 400dpi laser printer
>>> too and have a very nice unix system with scads of included software at ~$4500.
>>> 
>> Just to continue this non-ST discussion....
>> Please explain your $4500 price.  Someone posted the NextStation educational
>> prices a couple days ago.  I believe a usable system came in around $5000
>> for mono and $6500 for color - and that is without the 400 dpi printer you
>> mention.
>> 
>
>Well, you can get a NeXTStation with:
>Megapixel 4-grayshade monitor, 17 inch, about 1200x850 pixels
>8MB RAM, 105MB HD, 68040, DSP, ethernet, SCSI II, etc. etc.
>Lots of good software.
>
>For about $3200 educational in most universities in the U.S.

I believe the educational price for the NeXT laser printer is
~$1000-1500 (I lost the price sheet).  So maybe my original posting
was a few hundred dollars high, but I suspect $4500 for a system as
noted above plus the 400dpi laser is pretty close.

What are Atari laser printers selling for these days?  I haven't
seen one in ages, though I have seen the toner cartridges for sale.
Did Atari ever come up with a workable way to print postscript
files on it?

>An additional HD is recommended, though.

Yep, 100 megs is on the skimpy side for a unix box.  I would think
you'd need more like 300 megs to have a nice liveable environment.

>If TT's educ. price would be about $3000 (highly possible), I could see

As far as I know, there is NO educational discount program at Atari.

>no reason to get one over the NeXTStation (I wouldn't get Amiga3000UX either).
>So that's why I will get a NeXTStation. I now have an ST and I have had
>it for about 5 years... But I don't have to stick with Atari anymore.

Yep, for a unix box, the NeXT will be tough to beat at this price.

>
>					Jouni
Chris


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