Xref: utzoo comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc:4449 comp.sys.intel:1520 Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.intel Path: utzoo!utgpu!cunews!mentor.gandalf.ca!dcarr From: dcarr@mentor.gandalf.ca (Dave Carr) Subject: Re: When will the 8088 die? Message-ID: <1990Dec7.145839.2703@mentor.gandalf.ca> Organization: Gandalf Data Ltd., Nepean, Ontario, Canada References: <2842@polari.UUCP> <1990Dec5.184958.26371@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> <853@pdxgate.UUCP> Date: Fri, 7 Dec 90 14:58:39 GMT In article <853@pdxgate.UUCP> berggren@eecs.cs.pdx.edu (Eric Berggren) writes: >cy5@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Conway Yee) writes: > >refridgerator uses a 186 for control (one of those fancy kind). The reason >that's so cheap, is because the chip was so flawed for any PC system. > Talk about people unclear on the concept. The 80186(8) were intended for the EMBEDDED market. We use the 80186 extensively in our comm products. To design in a 680x0 + DMA + Chip Select logic + Timer/Counters + Clock controller + ... would add about $20+ dollars to each application. Let see, 800 muxes a month * 20 dollars = $16,000 profit (minus if 680x0). The only vendor I know that tried one in a PC was Tandy ! For the job it was designed for, I stand behind the 80186 any day ! I haven't seen any workstation vendor jumping on the 68302, but again, this is also a machine intended for IMBEDDED control.