Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!peregrine!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!apple!bc From: bc@Apple.COM (bill coderre) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer Subject: Re: Why doesn't Apple support their users and developers? Message-ID: <47122@apple.Apple.COM> Date: 5 Dec 90 19:09:43 GMT References: <1CE00001.a8frf3@tbomb.ice.com> Organization: personally, I wish I were Lines: 29 I just want to point out two things: * Links/Emails sent to MacDTS by unregistered developers currently produce a form letter asking for verification as an Apple Partner/Associate. Thus, if you aren't one of them, you won't get an answer. * APDA (supposedly the Apple Program Developers' Association) is supremely un-technically oriented. They don't sell the current versions of software (Macsbug), but do sell ridiculously outdated items that no longer reflect reality (Multifinder documentation). Additionally, asking an APDA clerk will produce random answers. The clerks have no idea what they are talking about. No one you can talk to there has any technical clue. I have heard of them telling a developer that they didn't carry a certain item. Yes, they were absolutely sure. Of course, when asked about the availability of that same item -- mentioned by part number -- they said, sure, they had plenty of them. Mind you, one you do become a registered developer, the situation changes drastically. Apple tries hard to give you plenty of stuff, even to the point of sending out stuff that probly shoulda been debugged for a few more days. And is there anyone out there who believes that the current line of technical documentation is easy-to-use, up-to-date, or even merely ADEQUATE? If so, have you ever read it or tried to use it? bill coderre now an apple employee. but most certainly not a spokesperson