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From: glenn@heaven.woodside.ca.us (Glenn Reid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: Rich Text and comp.sys.next
Message-ID: <356@heaven.woodside.ca.us>
Date: 7 Dec 90 04:08:19 GMT
References: <130125@gore.com> <1990Dec4.045426.28457@ni.umd.edu> <12266@milton.u.washington.edu> <1990Dec4.141122.1679@ni.umd.edu> <12305@milton.u.washington.edu>
Reply-To: glenn@heaven.woodside.ca.us (Glenn Reid)
Organization: RightBrain Software, Woodside, CA
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You guys have been bashing Mail.app a lot, and I have to come to its
defense.  I've used MH extensively.  I've used "mhe".  I've used
/usr/ucb/Mail.  I've used Sun's Mailtool under SunView.  They all
sort of work, and they all have serious limitations.  I'm also an
emacs weenie, for what it's worth.

In article <12305@milton.u.washington.edu> mrc@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (Mark Crispin) writes:
>Let's face it, Mail.app is a toy mailer for demonstrations.
>Traditional tools (e.g. mh, mm, /usr/ucb/Mail, elm, etc.) and their
>modern equivalents (in a sense, MailManager is a graphical MM) are
>heavy-duty mailers for seriosu use.

I don't agree with you, and I also think you must be joking by putting
/usr/ucb/Mail in this list.  I'd like to know what you think of as
"heavy duty" or "serious use".  What I think you really mean is "what
I'm used to" or perhaps "what I require by feeling the need to read my
mail from eighteen different computers at various times of the day."

I use and like Mail.app, and I process hundreds of messages a day.
It's a lot more than a toy, and it does a lot of things quite well.

While I'm at it, I tried your MailManager app and found that it had
one of the worst interfaces I've used in quite some time, didn't
dovetail at all well with Mail.app, and I forget what else, because I
deleted it.

Anyway, why don't we each promote our own tools, if we must, without
having to bash the other ones.  Some people actually *like* Edit and
Mail.app and the other NeXT tools.  You're free to improve upon them,
or do something different, but they work fine, are robust and far more
than "toys".

Glenn

P.S.  I'm sure you're amused by all the Japanese in your .signature
line, but I'm not, and I think it's a waste of bandwidth.
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