Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!apple!autodesk!glang From: glang@Autodesk.COM (Gary Lang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next Subject: Re: WingZ Message-ID: <1209@autodesk.COM> Date: 9 Dec 90 21:55:03 GMT References: <1990Nov26.134500.14895@ni.umd.edu> <699@mara.cognet.ucla.edu> Distribution: usa Organization: Autodesk Inc., Sausalito CA, USA Lines: 38 In-reply-to: iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu's message of 27 Nov 90 06:04:04 GMT >After all, how can they compete with a free product? By doing a different one. Powerstep and Wingz are full blown applications development environments, Improv is not touted as such. This is fundamental because it enables Wingz and Powerstep to be used as development platforms by third parties, not just an analysis tool. All really successful software packages turn out to have development environments on top of which the highest percentage of use of these packages are experienced. Examples: 1-2-3 dBASE Hypercard WP Word (macros, style sheets and now WordBasic) Excel etc. Informix and A-T can do very well with these products. Frankly, Lotus has done more for NeXT over the past 2 years than either A-T or Informix have. They've consistently let Frank King be photographed with a NeXT on his desk talking about it (largely to divert attention from Windows one might suspect but still..), manzi has constantly talked up the cube, etc. Ask yourself, who is the AA-T equivalen to King? Hmm.. O.K. so he probably hasn't talked about the cube much has he? Lotus and NeXT have a nice symbiosis going that few hardware and software vendors seem to have these days. BTW, I have Wingz and have seen the other 2 (haven't received upgrade yet) and can safely say that while it is a great product, it is the least NeXT-like of the 3. - g