Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!netnews.upenn.edu!vax1.cc.lehigh.edu!cert.sei.cmu.edu!krvw From: dave@tygra.ddmi.com (David Conrad) Newsgroups: comp.virus Subject: Re: PKZIP Auto-Verification feature.. (PC) Message-ID: <0008.9012071952.AA18950@ubu.cert.sei.cmu.edu> Date: 7 Dec 90 10:31:50 GMT Sender: Virus Discussion List Lines: 34 Approved: krvw@sei.cmu.edu There's another way the Authenticity Verification of PKZIP might have been fooled, though I doubt it was done this way, for reasons given below. As far as I know, PKUNZIP simply checks to see if the unzipped file contains the same encrypted key that the file was originally zipped with. Thus, the trojan author could have gotten a valid serial number from PKWARE and zipped the file with it. Upon unzipping a message would be displayed that the file was authentically made with *A VALID SERIAL NUMBER*. Not necessarily the right serial number. Does anyone know if the Name associated with the serial number is displayed upon unzipping so that the user can confirm that the data was not just zipped by *someone* with an AV serial number, but by the person whom the user expects to have zipped it? I can't check this myself as I only have the export version of the software. (Silly damn NSA....) I presume, however, that the folks at PKWARE could determine which serial number was used to zip the file, even if the current version of their software doesn't display this information upon unzipping (well, of course it wouldn't display the serial number, I meant to say the name), thereby nabbing the culpret. This seems almost too obvious. Has this been considered? It would be awfully funny if whoever did this had given themselves away thinking they were clever enough to outwith the AV. - -- David R. Conrad | Domain: dave@tygra.ddmi.com | Path: uunet!tygra!dave "Save the strong, lose the weak. Never turnin' the other cheek. Trust nobody, and don't be no fool. Whatever happened to the Golden Rule?" -- Stevie Ray Vaughn - -- = CAT-TALK Conferencing Network, Computer Conferencing and File Archive = - - 1-313-343-0800, 300/1200/2400/9600 baud, 8/N/1. New users use 'new' - = as a login id. AVAILABLE VIA PC-PURSUIT!!! (City code "MIDET") = E-MAIL Address: dave@DDMI.COM