Xref: utzoo sci.bio:4097 alt.romance:5672 soc.men:24128 soc.singles:74584 Path: utzoo!utgpu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!ucsd!nosc!crash!pnet01!rcf From: rcf@pnet01.cts.com (Bob Forsythe) Newsgroups: sci.bio,alt.romance,soc.men,soc.singles Subject: Re: Are Humans Naturally Monogamous? Message-ID: <6128@crash.cts.com> Date: 6 Dec 90 15:04:18 GMT Sender: root@crash.cts.com Organization: People-Net [pnet01], El Cajon CA Lines: 25 gazit@duke.cs.duke.edu (Hillel Gazit) writes: >In article <6091@crash.cts.com> rcf@pnet01.cts.com (Bob Forsythe) writes: >>Personally I'd find suggestions that my left-handedness was learned to be on >>par with suggestions that gays are made, not born. > >What difference does it make if gay are born this way, >or they are made this way, or they choose to be this way? > >Why does it have any importance? The difference, Hillel, is that once someone decides they are made and not born, it's a much shorter step to deciding that they can change if they "really want to", and the person deciding begins coming up with tactics to *make* them want to. In the case of handedness, this belief led teachers to beat my grandmother and mother's hands, tie their left-hands behind them, and generally make them ashamed of what they were. In my case it was more subtle. Just a teacher proudly announcing she'd never give an "A" in handwriting to a left-handed person because we slanted our letters the "wrong" way, and determinedly holding my wrist down so I couldn't hook my hand when writing, then belittling me when I smeared ink across the page. And all because of a belief that we could be right-handed "if we really wanted to". Bob c/o The OTH Gang rcf@pnet01.cts.com