Xref: utzoo sci.bio:4115 alt.romance:5691 soc.men:24192 soc.singles:74710 Path: utzoo!utgpu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!news.cs.indiana.edu!uceng!minerva!dmocsny From: dmocsny@minerva.che.uc.edu (Daniel Mocsny) Newsgroups: sci.bio,alt.romance,soc.men,soc.singles Subject: Re: Are Humans Naturally Monogamous? Message-ID: <6899@uceng.UC.EDU> Date: 8 Dec 90 18:19:29 GMT References: <6128@crash.cts.com> <1990Dec7.133845.9204@panix.uucp> <1473@bbxsda.UUCP> Sender: news@uceng.UC.EDU Followup-To: sci.bio Organization: University of Cincinnati, Cin'ti., OH Lines: 53 In article <1473@bbxsda.UUCP> scott@bbxsda.UUCP (Scott Amspoker) writes: >Yes. Well put. Homosexual people frequently defend themselves by >saying that it is not a matter of choice and that at least 10% of the >population is gay. I don't care if there was only *1* homosexual and >if he consiously chose to be homosexual - it's simply nobody's business. It's nobody's business as long as it's nobody's business. But what if somebody else thinks it's their business, too? They might do this, for example, if they become aware of another person's behavior and they don't like it. We may say we believe in personal freedom, and even freedom of expression. But I don't know anybody who really acts like they do all the time. For example, Scott, if I consciously choose to start writing all kinds of things that you find insulting and offensive, will you be willing to give your life to defend my freedom of expression? Voltaire said he he would die to preserve your right to say anything you want to say. How many people would be willing to do that? Nobody I know, that's for sure. I know a lot of people who are willing to make big sacrifices to guarantee their OWN freedom of expression (including me), but who really, truly cares whether someone else has all the same freedoms? For example, Fundamentalist Christians are one group who seem to play the role of "niggers" on the NET. Whenever the rednecks of the world need someone to run down and revile, they talk about the "fairies", "faggots", and "homosex-shuls". But on the NET, when we need someone to run down and revile, we recruit the Fundamentalist Christians. I have a hard time figuring out the basis for considering either homosexuals or Christians being more or less deserving to have their practices interfered with or insulted. Of course, a devotee of either camp would see obvious differences. How many of us with all our wonderful respect for freedom of choice and expression would really care to give our lives to guaranteeing that Fundamentalist Christians will have the right to practice their faith? Many people here will say what a terrible thing it is for a homosexual to be insulted in the media, and stand by silently when a Fundamentalist Christian gets the same thing. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of Organized Religion. But if a person gets on the NET and wants to bash homosexuals, everyone will try to stop them. If a person wants to bash Fundamentalists, it's open season. Why? -- Dan Mocsny Snail: Internet: dmocsny@minerva.che.uc.edu Dept. of Chemical Engng. M.L. 171 dmocsny@uceng.uc.edu University of Cincinnati 513/751-6824 (home) 513/556-2007 (lab) Cincinnati, Ohio 45221-0171