Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!att!pacbell.com!ucsd!usc!apple!bionet!GENETICS.WASHINGTON.EDU!joe From: joe@GENETICS.WASHINGTON.EDU (Joe Felsenstein) Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.evolution Subject: Re: species and speciation Message-ID: <9012131405.AA01263@evolution.genetics.washington.edu> Date: 13 Dec 90 13:05:18 GMT References: <9012121641.AA09723@genbank.bio.net> Sender: daemon@genbank.bio.net Lines: 30 Jim Danoff-Burg writes: > Mitochondrial DNA work may lead to > misinterpretations of the "truth", since it assumes constant rates of > speciation (ie: gradualism) and uniform speciation rates. [I am not > disparaging mDNA work, only its universal application. I am sure that > organisms that have been in a relatively constant environment would be > most effectively analyzed using mDNA] I believe that this is a misconception. I know of no reason to believe that in making mitochondrial DNA phylogenies we are assuming anything about rates of speciation or rates of change of morphological characters. They may or may not assume clocklike change of the molecular sequences, depending on how the analysis is done, but that can of course happen even as the morphology behaves in a most unclocklike way. Perhaps I am missing something -- is it being assumed that the objective of inferring the phylogeny is to assess morphological rates of change or estimate the genealogy? The remainder of the posting is about concepts of speciation. I suggest that it be reposted to the population-biology group which is where that belongs, as it has nothing specific to do with molecular evolution. ----- Joe Felsenstein, Dept. of Genetics, Univ. of Washington, Seattle, WA 98195 Internet: joe@genetics.washington.edu (IP No. 128.208.128.1) Bitnet/EARN: felsenst@uwalocke UUCP: ... uw-beaver!evolution.genetics!joe