Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!casbah.acns.nwu.edu!accuvax.nwu.edu!nucsrl!telecom-request From: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Moderator) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: On Who You Owe When Slammed Message-ID: <15416@accuvax.nwu.edu> Date: 16 Dec 90 16:26:58 GMT Sender: news@accuvax.nwu.edu Organization: TELECOM Digest Lines: 52 Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 10, Issue 882, Message 2 of 9 Jerry raises a good point in the message before this one, which if I understand correctly is that by paying the unauthorized carrier of your package or your phone call, you are in effect encouraging them to continue the act of diverting things not intended for themselves. This is only partly correct. There is a third party involved who actually caused the misdelivery, i.e. your local telco. In Jerry's example above, the analogy should be like this: You give a package to an employee and tell them to take it to the 'express office' for shipment. You neglect to say *which* express company, and your employee was under the impression -- because of instructions received at some time or another, or a misunderstanding of your instructions -- that you wanted the package delivered to Pat's Delivery Service instead of Federal Express. So, your employee drops it off at Pat's, and Pat delivers your package in good faith. After all, your package was brought to them by your agent/employee. When you get the bill from Pat, you can't refuse to pay because your employee/agent took the package to the wrong place. Get it straight with your agent/employee instead ... the interstate delivery service did as instructed. When calling long distance, your local telco uses a form of shorthand for your instructions: 1+ will be considered an abbreviation for the 10xxx of your choice until you tell them differently. Somehow or another they get those instructions incorrect. Maybe someone else did legitimatly ask to use Pat, but the telco got the digits transposed on the work order and mistakenly thought you wanted to use Pat. Maybe Pat mistakenly or deliberatly told them you wanted to use his service. If the carrier deliberatly did this, then we have different circumstances than if the local telco did it in error. In the latter case the LD carrier is not at fault and should be paid, and in fact under the law they can force you to pay if necessary by suing you, although it is unlikely one would do so for a few dollars. And although I am not certain, I think if Pat picked up your express package from a common drop off point where all tenants in your building left their express mail, and if precise routing instructions for your package were ambiguous, i.e. a 'generic' freight airbill as opposed to one specifically saying 'Federal Express' that Pat could also sue you to get paid if he took what he believed was an unrouted delivery. The answer lies in forcing the local telco to *confirm* these changes in writing or otherwise rather than by some petty method of withholding fees for services in fact rendered. Patrick Townson