Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!casbah.acns.nwu.edu!accuvax.nwu.edu!nucsrl!telecom-request From: jgd@convex.csd.uwm.edu (John G Dobnick) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: Don't Pay For Slamming Message-ID: <15417@accuvax.nwu.edu> Date: 14 Dec 90 19:46:23 GMT Sender: news@accuvax.nwu.edu Organization: TELECOM Digest Lines: 32 Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 10, Issue 882, Message 3 of 9 ehopper@ehpcb.wlk.com (Ed Hopper): > No, no, no! The fact that charges may be the same are irrelevant. > These are ill-gotten gains. [...] > I refused to pay for the Sprint portion of the bill AT ALL. > [Moderator's Note: They may be 'ill-gotten gains' to the slamming > carrier as you point out, but your failure to pay *at least the amount > you anticipated paying for the call you placed* is an unjust > enrichment to yourself. Strictly speaking, you must pay for calls you > place. This is required by tariff. ... PAT] Why is "slamming" not considered, and treated, as theft? Theft of long distance business from one carrier by another? (In this case, theft of AT&T business by Sprint?) It seems to me that if anyone has a complaint here, it is AT&T -- they are the ones who lost business through what I would consider misrepresentation, if not outright fraud. (Anyway, why should I sue Sprint? AT&T has more lawyers that I do. :-) ) While I tend to agree that the caller owes *someone* for long distance service, it isn't Sprint. If this were my problem, I would be willing to pay AT&T (at AT&T rates) for the long distance service consumed, since that is what I originally expected to pay, but I would certainly resist paying Sprint one red cent. John G Dobnick (JGD2) Computing Services Division @ University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee INTERNET: jgd@csd4.csd.uwm.edu ATTnet: (414) 229-5727 UUCP: uunet!uwm!csd4.csd.uwm.edu!jgd